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Plucking like mad!!!
Last Post 08-10-2009 06:07 PM by LesleyG. 19 Replies.
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17-09-2009 10:56 PM

Help........Ollie 3 yr old CAG has started plucking like mad around his neck and now down to his chest. The olny thing I can put it down to is the arrival of Beckham B/L grey.

As Becks is so very scareed of humans I put his cage next to Ollies, at first Ollie was preening him through the bars and all seemed ok. Quite often they sway cages, Becks seems to like Ollies cage and it appeared Ollie was ok in the other one.

Ollie has gone from liking my OH to biting him and today growled at him. Instead of Olliehelping Becks to come round it seems that Becks is training Ollie to be more 'wild'.

Have I made a big mistake in trying t let them become friends, Becks follows Ollie everywhere but obviously Ollie is not happy with something.

What on earth can I do to stem the plucking? Have moved Ollie away from the bird room (he was always an only bird) will try to give him more attention. I feel awful that something is upsetting him and I don't know what it is. His old owners are coming to visit him soon and instead of a friendly (to men) happy fully feathered bird they will find a semi tame plucked one!!

Any advice on what to do??????

On the plus side Becks is doing well and seems quite contented!

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18-09-2009 04:41 AM

Oh Lesley, I feel so guilty!

Do you want me to find somewhere else for Becks? Poor Ollie, I don't know what to say!

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18-09-2009 08:01 AM
Can you try to put Ollie back to where he was and when he was happy and move the new grey to a place where he can be happy? Do you think its the new grey thats causing it?
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18-09-2009 05:28 PM

It has been suggested that this could be hormonal!! We have a suspicion that Ollie is female maybe.

Vicks.....I don't think it is in Becks best interest to move him as he seems happy, whistling away and is making slow improvements, in that he has stopped growling at me, will sit at front of cage now as before he retreated to the back and 'ALMOST' took food from my hand!!!!!

I have moved Ollie to another room so he can be with us more, also got the aloe in a spray and serving up chamomile tea!! Will see what happens with fingers crossed.

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19-09-2009 12:25 AM
It may be hormonal but I still feel bad as it was probably Becks arrival that caused it but none the less, I am sooooo pleased you're bringing him on so well!

Need to speak to you anyway, will give you a buzz!
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19-09-2009 03:50 AM

God don't you just wish you could ask them what the matter is? Came home from work and my husband said prepare yourself for a shock......Ollie has stripped his neck and chest bare!!!!

Have now moved poor Becks into dining room and got Ollie back in his own cage and all back as it was before Becks came. Now feel really guilty that Becks is on his own! Will make time to spend with both of them in turn, keep it like this and see what happens.

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19-09-2009 04:24 AM
Does sound like it is the new arrival has caused the problem.....greys don't you just love them! Sounds like you have the right idea keeping things how they were for Ollie, you just need to introduce Becks in really baby steps....a few weeks of just hearing him, then slowly let them see each other......etc. Greys are very strange little people sometimes, fingers crossed you get Ollie to cope with the new arrival, I am sure you will in time. If Ollie is 3 it might be that Becks arrival was just at the start of Ollies "change", I dread to think how many 4-5 year old greys we have had in, but puberty in Greys is a BIG deal, it is very common for them to switch allegencies from the "parent" human to the "partner" human, hence why we get them in, as usually the "partner" human works and the bird cannot understand why they are not there 24/7 so do what greys do best in a situation they can't control PLUCK.
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19-09-2009 05:52 AM
Greys hate change and unlike some parrots do not get put out from the parents until much older than most. Would like to hear what Shaz has to say on this, she really does know her greys and may have some suggestions. Good luck
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19-09-2009 04:56 PM

The funny thing is he seems quite happy!!! Chatting and whistling away and his usual busy self.

Yep Crystal, I have spoken to Shaz in depth and she has givien me some ideas, she feels it's quite probably hormonal. Of course I now feel quilty for moving Becks out, I bet he wonders what has happened.

I'll tell you what.......I never used to worry about my kids this much!!!!!

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24-09-2009 12:57 AM

Well......it continues!!! Ollie has now stripped neck, chest, started on legs and back and tail too. He is snipping them off rather than plucking them out.

Am trying everything I can and doing what has been suggested to me by others too. God this is so awful!!!

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24-09-2009 01:03 AM
oohhh lesley i dont know what else could be suggested, someone may come along with other ideas to try hopefully x
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24-09-2009 02:37 AM
Lesley,

I assume you're keeping him entertained with new toys. A firm favourite with our 2 CAGs (including Charlie, a plucker) is newspaper rolled up into a toilet roll innard and stuffed through the bars - it makes a paper shredding mess but keeps them 'plucking' the paper, not themselves.
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24-09-2009 04:07 AM

Yes, I am Helen, am doing everything I can think of. Funnily enough he is also shredding his rope perch and his pape cage lining too which is why I though the people who said it might be hormonal could be correct.

It is so sad to see the feathers all on the cage floor....even the red tail feahers!

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24-09-2009 04:10 AM
All you can do is make sure he's happy and healthy. I know it sounds crazy but try not to make a big thing about it - you don't want him to think that getting naked gets him attention
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24-09-2009 04:26 AM
Ooh Lesley my heart goes out to you!

Any other time I would put it down to you new BL chappie, but seeing the state of my Norm at present I feel SURE it is hormonal. I had a lovely long chat with Sheila last night about exactly the same subject. Now, today, despire being knackered from a 3.30am start I have wound the clock back and totally mollycoddled the little fella he has been totally spoiled and has followed me round all afternoon and he seems much happier.

If you have not tried it, please try him with camomile tea with honey, it really works with Norm. He has been delightful this afternoon. But as for the upset of seeing all those feathers. I have already have admitted I have cried my eyes out at what Norm does to himself from time to time......

I feel sure he will get thru this fine.
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08-10-2009 06:40 AM

Hi, My African grey did the exact same thing plucked all his neck feathers out when i bought another one. I took him to the vet and he said it was stress?? He advised me to put drops of lavender around the room which i did and he stopped. Whether this worked or he got used to the new bird i will never know. Hope he gets well soon...Will

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08-10-2009 08:45 AM
Lesley with Burt i give him a warm shower everyday andmake sure he has time outside in the garden most days and use feather up aswell and seem to be working wonders xxxx
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08-10-2009 03:55 PM
A friend had a sennie who was in lovely condition when she got her, but then began to pluck. She couldnt work out what was causing this, and was really worried.After taking her to our avian vet , and being tested for mites, having blood tests etc, and talking to the vet, it appeared she would excessively preen whilst sitting on her shoulder. This bird had apparently been near other birds in her previous home. The vet suggested a friend for her. She doesnt really like her friend near her cage,and doesnt appear to be interested, but does like the company of hearing it, and will call back and forward to it.The other advice she was given was to keep her on her knee as opposed to her shoulder, and to put her back in her cage when she began to preen. Supply her with a toy rope she could preen.It has taken almost a year, but she is almost back to normal again.
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08-10-2009 04:30 PM

hi lesley,

belle used to pluck her chest and legs a few years back,

like you i tryed most things the vet sugested, they didn't work.

we noticed belle was abit more aggressive when she was plucking,which made us think it was hormone's.

in the end we decided on an hormone injection...and it did the trick

now if she starts to pluck, i just take her back to the vets for her hormone's (with regular checks to see if she needs a top up.

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08-10-2009 06:07 PM

Lavender oil....interesting!! I might try that, I guess it's ok for birds then?

I think this might have started when Becks came and Ollie started to 'preen' him through the bars, however it soon became obvious that Ollie's version of preening was in fact plucking as Becks then had a bald patch on the top of his head!! Poor Becks ws so desperate for bird company he let Ollie do it and even begged him to do it.

Anyway....they are now kept apart, Ollie is shredding like mad....thanks to Argos catalogues  and his rope perch!!!  He has a couple of feathers growing on his neck and no obvious signs of plucking or snipping....mind you he hasn't many left to remove! So fingers crossed for him.

Ollie and Amy (LSC) have a new passion now.....we have a fabulous walnut tree in the garden and we have a dustbin size load of nuts drying in boxes and they LOVE to sit on the side of the box and throw out the nuts and watch where they've gone...they do it for ages, mind you it takes me flipping ages to collect them all up into the box again!!! Have to watch you don't tread on one and slip.....not in the mood for a broken bone at the moment!!

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