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Last Post 26-01-2010 07:14 AM by Charlotte. 18 Replies.
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03-01-2010 10:50 AM

 Please please please can anybody offer any advice about my screaming Ammie! I am positively at the end of my rope!

We have had him for a couple of months now and to begin with there were no real problems at all. He settled in well, he's not destructive and not really messy, few biting issues but with a bit of work they were settling down. I was told he had never lived with young children, but he has really taken a shine to my 8 year old daughter and just loves her, flies to her as soon as she walks in the room.

He's not a massively chatty bird, although he has a few phrases. When we first got him we noticed he would scream "WHAT" for attention, the kids thought this was hysterical and would shout it back, so he quickly realised this got attention, and we quickly learnt to ignore him. He has always made his loud flocking cry in the morning and again at night, which is fine - because he's a parrot and I don't expect him to be quiet. However his screaming has increased.

When the children have friends around and the kids are making any noise he starts screeching, again we tried to ignore this putting him in another room and closing the doors so the noise would no excite him, however he just seems to be getting worse. Because my daughter is his favorite, he will scream for her attention as soon as he hears or sees her, if she ignores him the noise just escalates. 

We have tried to ignore him, to give him time out in his cage, cover the cage (which I know some people say shouldn't be done - this worked initially but now makes him worse), The screaming is now a real problem because he cannot be in the living room while the tv is on because he just shouts over it, he screams if he hears you talking on the phone. If we take him out of the room he gives his flocking cry (which literally makes the house vibrate!). It seems the more I try to address the problem the worse I am making it! 

His behaviour is making him really unpleasant to have around, he starts screaming as soon as he gets any sort of attention, and shrieking when you ignore him. I really don't know what to do for the best now.

Any ideas? 

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03-01-2010 11:08 AM
well to start with many will know how you feel this time of year
from dec to about feb its there hormonal time so they will be "louder" than normal... with regards to changing the behaviour im affraid you will need to start over again re training him as he has been tought by your little ones to screem and they screem back..

If you email me your phone number i will give you a call and try and help you throught this if you like
there is too much to try for me to write it all on here

my email is shellwidjaew@hotmail.co.uk
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03-01-2010 12:03 PM

 I dont have ammies, but I have a conure, greys, alex's and quakers and ALL of them are noisier at the moment than normal, and trust me at times Im soooo glad to get out the house!  Shell will have some good advice for you xx

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03-01-2010 01:22 PM
As with ammies, my patagonian conure is a pure nightmare at the moment too.She screams if she's in her cage, she screams when she's out, she even screams right down my ear when she's on my shoulder. She is shredding paper relentlessly, and screams whilst doing it.
I know in her case, this will eventually pass.
Im sure Shell will give you lots of advice on re-training your ammie, but dont expect too much too quickly, just due to the season it may take a while to be aware of the full effect of any training.
Good luck.
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03-01-2010 01:32 PM
must admit i have found the two conours louder than usual the past week
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03-01-2010 05:08 PM

our likely lads Sonny & Percy (Ammies) who live together have started to moonwalk around the bottom of the cage making strange noises, so I've give them a box to shred up. Plus when the 4 Ammies here get started on a shouting spree usually just before food is coming, I tell them with my hand palm facing them that the babies are sleeping this shuts them up only for a minute or so but then I just put up my hand, by which time food is in their dishes and they are rewarded for quiet behaviour, noisy birdies get the goodies last, they soon catch on. 

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03-01-2010 05:23 PM
Rocky Roo our BF is exactly the same at the moment, hes usually pretty quiet but the last 3 weeks hes been horrendous, hes bonded with my Hubby and hes screaming all the time for him, its just the time of year I think as hes not done it before.

Shell will helpp you
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03-01-2010 09:45 PM
Yes Gizmo my OWA is exactly the same, from dusk until dawn she craves constant attention, is loud loud and this is not made any easier by my baby grey Dusty imintating her screams !!! All Gizmo wants first thing is sex, no food. I give her 12-14 hours sleep every night !!
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04-01-2010 10:25 AM
Thanks everyone. Shell was indeed very helpful, I think it is just good to find out that everyone else is going through the same thing. I was beginning to wonder what on earth I had got myself into! Although I think he must have heard me on the phone saying I was going to put him in the oven because he was remarkably good yesterday! Today we are back to the glass-shattering WA WA WA, but knowing that its seasonal helps. At least I now have guidance pointing me in the right direction so don't feel quite so despairing!
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04-01-2010 01:11 PM

Oh trust me, we all get the same at times, it can get wearing after a while.  All I would say is if it starts to get to you too much, take a 5 minute walk outside, just getting away from it for a short period helps a lot.

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04-01-2010 03:17 PM
i find doing that helps as well mandy, or take of to the shops....think sometimes it seems worse when were not having a good day to start with and just adds to your pressure sometimes .........but we all love em
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21-01-2010 01:33 PM

Amazons can be very noisy just now, I have a pair of yellow crowned, a pair of red lored and 2 pairs of orangewings in my garden aviaries ( I have very understanding neibours ) and at this time of year they get very excitable. When the noise gets too much I just let my dogs out into the garden and this distracts them and they go quiet, they don't have any fear of the dogs, they just get curious and come down to see them . This seems to take their mind off the screaming and they settle down again. So I think quiet distraction is also worth trying.

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21-01-2010 03:20 PM
how are you getting on with your ammie?
Has it got any better?
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25-01-2010 04:02 PM
OMG!!!!! he wont shut up!!! Have just walked through the door and he is in the dining room screaming WAWAWAH! we ignore him until he is quiet, but the screaming periods are going on for longer each day. When he is finally quiet I go in and make a fuss of him and he instantly starts again. I turn my back as you advised and when he's quiet I praise him.

To be fair we have good days and bad. I am sure he knows when he has pushed me too far then he has a day of being adorable and I love him. I can tell his mood as soon as I take the cover off the cage in the morning. Some days he rushes to the side and bows his head for a scratch, other days his eyes pin and he lunges at me the second I uncover him. The last couple of days he has been really aggressive, lunging at everyone who goes near him. When he is like this I can't have him out with the children, but the more time he spends in his cage the worse the screaming gets, because obviously he just wants to be part of the family!

When I am alone with him he is an angel. He has a perch in every room and is content to just sit and watch me, and chat and whistle. He is rarely naughty and if he does get a bit vocal I ignore him and he soon comes round. The second the children come in/home/get up he starts screaming or shouting "What?" at the top of his voice.

So in short no he hasn't got any better!!! I'm still trying though! When he is good he is so lovely, if I could just tape his beak up? lol Is it still hormones? how long should this go on?
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25-01-2010 04:32 PM
another month or so for the hormones to calm down but keep trying what has been advised i am sure he will soon learn bless him lol
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25-01-2010 04:40 PM
Hi Charlotte,

I can't offer advice like the other guys but I can say that your Ammie sounds like a real character - it may be the way you describe it but it does sound like you have a lovely bird who just has an over enthusiasm for noise.


Oodie is being a bit of a pain at the minute and is spending all of his time shreiking continuously - a reason I posted asking about the Silly (hormonal?) Season. A neighbour commented that he was particularly loud to which I responded "He's only warming up" and then glowered at them. We've been glued together now for a year (pre-weaning) and it's really clear to me he's struggling to come to terms with something.


I really hope your Ammie gives you the leeway to forgive him because (in my very limited experience) the very best moments with our birds are a direct result of fighting our way through the hard bits. If the bird arrived, greeted us with a hearty "good day" and then backflipped we'd have nothing left to share with them.


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25-01-2010 08:34 PM

Charlotte, sorry to hear things have not improved. Its even more difficult with my Gizmo at present due to Dusty my baby grey wanting constant attention. Gizmo is loud all day if im in and fights constantly for my attention, despite all my efforts at present times are hard. Added to that is a young grey copying the ammie squeals, but louder lol.

I find my two babies take me through life learning every day, it would be boring otherwise. Gizmo i understand suffers from a bit of separation anxiety from her past ( me being a mental health nurse lol). From my experience so far i would say my amazon experience has provided me with more challenge than my african grey one. But to be honest thats what i signed up for lol.

Keep persevering, because there are days when i know those techniques work with Gizmo.

 

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26-01-2010 12:06 AM
hi mate,
Sorry to hear this, but like i said on the phone he will get WORSE before he gets better, but you have to try and stick to it im affraid.

he is begining to scream more as he is now thinking WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME!!!! you use to fuss me/shout/talk to me when i called and now you are ignoring me.....

he will learn!! but please be patient. It took me 3 months to stop my macaw screaming but its ALL worth while when he learns!

yes it is also still the hormone season...

if you need any more info please feel free to call/email me

in the mean time ear plugs and paracetamol
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26-01-2010 07:14 AM
Thanks everyone! I will keep you posted on his updates. I will persevere, besides there isn't enough meat on him to make a decent roast, so there's no point putting him in the oven ;-)

It's good to hear that everyone else is having similar problems, sometimes the guilt really gets me though. Yesterday he screamed constantly for well over half an hour and as much as I wanted to wring his little green neck (lol) I also felt really mean ignoring him because he must be really stressed wondering why everyone is ignoring him and he's not part of the family! Then when I covered him up for bed he whistled the sound from Close Encounters! made me really giggle and I realised I'd missed him because he had been stuck in the other room most of the evening! And when he's on form he really is quite entertaining!

Surely he must be getting the message now that if he screams we ignore him? I thought parrots were meant to be intelligent? Trust me to get the dozy one!
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