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introducing a baby cag to Ron
Last Post 17-05-2010 03:49 PM by wendy. 23 Replies.
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01-05-2010 06:52 PM

Hi

After having some problems with Ron as I have recently discussed with you, I have been advised to have a female baby grey which may help him. I was advised to introduce them to the same cage over a few days. Ron is 18months old now, and has developed  a fear of me and won't come out of his cage. He is ok on the few times he leaves his cage and will sit on my shoulder although he is very nervous. This behaviour has come about after various visits to the vet and a wing infection.

Do you think I would be wise to have the baby grey?

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01-05-2010 07:02 PM

 Firstly why female, and why a baby?  I find this a very strange thing to have been suggested to you tbh.  if a bird is nervous, yes another bird could possibly help him, but at the same time could make things ten times worse too.  I would say  you are better off concentrating on Ron for a while, I will go back in a min and read your previous posts,  but please dont rush out to get another bird hoping this will sovle the problems, as I dont believe it will, sorry hun 

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01-05-2010 07:04 PM

 Wendy wherebaouts are you? Im wondering if we can get one of our ACO's over to you to see the problems you are having, maybe we can help. x 

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01-05-2010 07:08 PM
YES GETTING RON A FRIEND MIGHT HELP HIM ,BUT IT MIGHT NOT HELP THE FACT HE IS NERVOUS WITH YOU , I WOULD WORK ON THAT FIRST BE FOR BRINGING A NEW BIRD IN TO THE HOME X
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01-05-2010 07:36 PM
Hi Wendy,

Can I just say that my little citron used to love everyone and loved a cuddle from anyone willing! She had to go to the vets a few times for her beak to be filed as it was out of line, and since then, she is terrified of everyone apart from me and Les.

So the fact that you took her and let someone 'prod and poke' her is probably why she thinks you are taking her to the vet again so she can't relax! Also, does something you wear remind her of the vet? glasses, hair, etc. I know if you wear green, Maya freaks out immediately!

You don't say how long agao it was that she was taken to the vet? Is it quite recent? Time is a great healer.
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02-05-2010 04:34 PM

Hi Margy

This was suggested to me by a breeder, and at the time it seemed like a good idea, but the more I think about it i'm not so sure. She said he would not attack a baby especially if it were female and I thought perhaps it was a good chance to make Ron's strange behaviour change and I really would like another bird. After Ron's many visits to the vets I think that is why he is so scared of me  and its heart breaking not to even be able to touch him. It was a lifelong ambition of mine to have a grey and now i am no longer able to work as a nurse due to health problems it was great when I had Ron.

I thought getting him some company maybe thats the answer, maybe not. Perhaps the breeder just wanted another sale, who knows.

Anyway perhaps a rehoming bird might be the answer, what do you think? Wendy

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02-05-2010 06:03 PM
Hi wendy ,if i was you i would work on the relationship between you and ron ,and get him to trust you again and you trust him ,before you bring a new bird in to the home,, just incase it makes him worse ,,fingers crossed for you both xxx
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02-05-2010 06:51 PM

 The sex of the bird will not matter hun, and for them to say he wont attack a baby is ridiculous! If a bird wants to attack, they will, regardless of ages, sex or size.Sorry but sounds like you've been given some duff information there.  Personally I would take things right back to the beginning with your little one, I've got your pm and will pass details onto the ACO manager, see if they are able to get someone to visit that can help hun, see what you've done, and iuf we can bring things forward for you xxx

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02-05-2010 07:07 PM
Hi Wendy, I had very similar problems with one of my luvvies, nearly a year to win his trust and 3 weeks of vet treatment to destroy it...........BUT with time and going back to basics we got there and he became the little boy I thought I'd lost forever. Time and patience was all he needed.

Personally, and its only my opinion but I don't think bringing in another bird of any age/sex is the right thing for him currently. Take all the advice you will get on rebuilding your relationship and then tale stock and decide on increasing your flock from there.

Good luck, you will succeed, just hang in there. Again think my relationship with my Bobby is stronger than ever now!!

Let us know how you're getting on!

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02-05-2010 07:30 PM
Hi folks
It seems that it would be best to build on the relationship that I have with Ron instead of having another cag. It is reassuring to know that someone has experienced what I am going through now and things have improved. I have been sitting by Ron's cage for the last hour just talking to him and he seems ok until I move and then he panics. I quess it will take a long while and the vet wants him back in a few weeks again. So I shall make myself scarce LOL
Thanks for your help
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02-05-2010 07:40 PM
Is there anyone else that you can get to take Ron to the vet for you? that may be a start!
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03-05-2010 08:22 AM
The other option perhaps before commiting to another bird is to safe house with Birdline. That way you get to help Birdline out, and also see how Ron reacts to different birds being around without having long term commitment.
Just a thought.
I think working with Ron is a good idea. He was once a very cuddly bird, so that means he definatly has the potential to go back to that.
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03-05-2010 11:22 AM
Ron went on holiday for a week to be converted onto Harrisons and it failed miserably, hence tidymix. The lady said that she had never had such a stubborn bird who would rather starve than eat Harrisons. He won't be going anywhere again. Anyway while he was there he was surrounded by other parrots and it didn't phase him at all so if I did safe house another parrot I suppose it would be ok.
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03-05-2010 07:00 PM

I agree with everyone else - Ron should be your first thought - it's clear how much he means to you. If he likes tidymix and hates Harrison's then why not let him enjoy it? Our 2 BL foster CAGs also hate Harrison's - Charlie especially would starve rather than eat something he dislikes. Charlie was a very grumpy, scared and unsociable boy when he arrived with us. Time, patience and love has meant that we now have a boy who loves to play with his toys and who loves to whistle and sing. It took us around 8 months to teach him how to go back into his cage and it took him 9 months to accept a new perch. He's a completely different bird now. I'm sure with your love, reassurance and encouragement when he makes any progress, you will get the old Ron back. Time is a great healer. If you did get another bird then Ron might feel that you're trying to replace him.

I think Margy's suggestion of getting someone else to take him to the vets is a great idea. He then won't associate you with the vets - only the treats and kindness that come afterwards.

Please let us know how you're getting on. x

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03-05-2010 07:08 PM
Or even get the nurse to come remove him from the car at the vets. That way he doesn`t associate you taking him in, more someone else taking him away.
Then go in and collect him and you`re the good guy that way, armed with his favourite treats of course!!
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04-05-2010 07:33 PM
That seems like a good idea as the vets is 2 hours each way I couldn't expect anyone else to take Ron, but I could ask the nurse to fetch him in. Yesterday we had a major breakthrough I was playing Enya to Ron which i used to play when I first had him and he came up to the bars on the cage and licked my finger. I must say that being soppy like I am it reduced me to tears because I know that the Ron I once had is still there. It was great
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04-05-2010 08:45 PM
Wendy, we're all behind you - as you say, the old Ron is still there - it'll just take some time and devotion on your part to persuade him out of his shell. Keep up the good work and please let us know of the successes, no matter how small.
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04-05-2010 08:51 PM
Fab news Wendy, you'll get him back, keep up the good work and the updates!!
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13-05-2010 04:43 PM
Just a quick update on Ron. Since he has finished his antibiotics he has been so much more lively. At the moment he is singing away to War of the Worlds. On Monday he stepped up onto my daughter's shoulder while she was cleaning him out and I managed to weigh him. He is upto 445gms now and eating for England. Once I got him away from the room with his cage in he was ok with me. However since then everytime I go near his cage he panics.The avian vet needs to see him on Monday so I hope that won't set him back too much. I'll let you know how he gets on then!!!
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13-05-2010 07:13 PM
Wendy, he obviously wants to be a tame boy. What sort of situation do you have his cage in? Is it near a door or is it open to access on all sides? Charlie, our Foster CAG, was pretty scared when he arrived. He was terrified of everything. We had him in front of a bookcase but settled better with a blanket covering it instead. So, if anyone visits us, they see we have a big pink blanket over the bookcase.

He also hates anything new being placed near his cage.

Just a few thoughts. Maybe he may improve with moving his cage to a more secure position?
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